Contrast For Our Community

[Amysaurus]

@EvilChibi: I think it's just how our brains work. We recognize words by their shapes rather than the actual letters, so it's harder to understand when every word looks like the start of a new sentence. It can be just as difficult to read a message in all lowercase letters, too. I guess I'm kind of neutral here. I like things written out "normally," but if it's someone's habit I don't feel like it's my place to correct them, unless it becomes a bother to the community.

I think a lot of things are going right in this community so far, but keep in mind we don't have the anywhere near the number of posts and members that larger communities have to deal with everyday. The real test is when we reach those numbers. It won't only be the staff that needs to avoid any rude/elitist behavior - it'll be everyone. :)

 

[Companion Wulf]

@Amysaurus You're absolutely right. Our brains are funny creatures. In fact, we don't really need letters per se. As an example:

Waht yuor biarn deos is raed the frsit and lsat ltertes and flils in the balnks.

Case in point. I must admit I've become a little more tolerant over the years about the different writing styles, whether it's on purpose or not. If something is unreadable, I won't overlook it, I'll just convert it to read. ;)

 

[Macro]

Yeah there is a study I heard of that says we mainly read the first and last letter, and then fill in the blanks as needed to read quickly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typoglycemia is a good example

I guess people (mod in question) that can't adapt to recognizing that a CAPITAL LETTER isn't always in the beginning of a sentence may get triggered. XD

 

[MinisterJay]

In different cultures, the presentation of the written language can different meanings. I do not see anything offensive about Capitalizing Every Word, in a sentence. I may get a little unsettled, if ALL CAPS are used. What if the person does not realize that CapsLock is on? Back in the day (1980's), it meant that you were shouting at someone. I have had experience being a mod in a writing forum. Even there, we did not nit pick. Seeing different ways of communicating brings excitement and diversity. I am glad this is a 'fun' based forum, and not the tyranny sort.

 

[Cunechan]

I think the main problem is that we don't know the people behind the post and we only have the writing to interprete the persons character. We know too little to judge this person (just my thought). Someone may always text like this with his friends or doesnt even notice it happens. Capatilizing every first letter is not a bad thing (like already said, in German we do this with every noun) and theres nothing offensive on it. Atleast no one should feel "attacked".

"Annoying to read" is just a lil bit selfish or sth to show the mods might in the forum, well if there'd be more people who'd feel uncomfortable with it they could just ask them nicely to. But seriously there are way worde problems in the world than an introduction with capatilized letters and it's no reason to get rude. Idk, sorry I talk too much. *leaves without remark c:*

 

[Bizarre Monkey]

Personally I don't mind whatever haphazard way people type so long as I can understand them. Being on the internet long enough trains you to be tolerant to the witless. The sincere question should be priority.

If a moderator or admin is saying this...

"Please, DON'T capitalise every word, it makes your post annoying to read."

It means they are bad. That kind of low tolerance for infantile mistakes is the sort of shit I'd expect to see on Minecraft servers not forums of any respectability.

Since there are at most five forums that remain to bolster RPG maker, and since the ones I'm not banned from Don't have moderators that petty because I would be banned already if they did, I'm going to assume this is either rpgmakervxace.net or rpgmakerweb.com we're talking about.

HBgames, no one gives enough of a shit and it's so inactive I can't see that being a thing anyway.

RMN's staff are incredibly patient, as I've gone to great lengths testing them. RMN is rough, but it's roaming. There's no hugboxxing there, which is great if you're stalwart and trying to get better. Not so great if you're conceited and just want people to praise you.

RMRK? I really can't imagine that sort of behaviour from anyone but some of the unpopular members there, I never had a very good experience with RMRK but considering the amount of people in this thread who I know just flat out wouldn't go there are talking about it, I think it's been narrowed down.

RMW's staff? Some are okay, some are good, some are absolutely atrocious. This applies to VXace.net as well, typically it seems to be the moderators who step out of line with things like this.

What I disagree with about the staff of those two groups is that a decision, unless under very extreme circumstances, is final, no matter how stupid or petty it is. They will defend each other zealously, the great thing about here and places like RMN is that we are run mostly on democracy, certainly, the admins/mods do have a bigger say than members, but the members are acknowledged, rather than completely ignored.

RMW is a totalitarian hugbox, VXACE is nearly the same but with a little less hugboxxing and a lot more 'make this game a different way because it offends me' baby's ward.

This site, at least in it's current moment and since it's founding, is the long sought middle ground between RMN and VXace.net. How long it will stay that way will be determined by it's members, moderators and admins. We all have the power to keep this forum the way it is.

I guess people (mod in question) that can't adapt to recognizing that a CAPITAL LETTER isn't always in the beginning of a sentence may get triggered. XD

Czech privrige.

RMW is basically 9gag, their humor tends to be years out of date and their main following tends to be pretty obnoxious and severely unfunny in a lot of cases.

VXace.net is pretty much Tumblr, people get butthurt very easily, don't want to hear anything but positives, full of babies and those who seek to be politically correct.

RMRK is like reddit, unfunny though at least consistently bad instead of trying to actually surprise you now or then. Most of it's members talk like redditors as well, only their humor is at least better.

RMN is p/much the closest in the rpgmaker community to old 4chan (current 8chan), no one cares who you are or what you do, they just like to make games and argue about politics and also jegus drama everywhere.

HBgames is facebook, no one really talks about games just life stuff. The few that do like Sated, Princess Amy, Bluxxon, myself and Strawberri are among the elite and purely because we actually do more than talk about cars or other inane topics entirely unrelated to game dev. Mostly everyone their is pretty friendly. If it was more active it could easily be the closest thing to a rival this site has.

This site doesn't have a cybernetic entity I could compare it to yet, very little drama, much morale, and everyone who comes here seems to be pretty happy.

 

[PhilteredKhaos]

I am kind of with Bizarre Monkey on this one, though I wouldn't call RMVXA full of babies. Children, yes... but babies just lay around and make noises. Children need constant validation...
I feel like a lot of the Mods (and some of the long-time users) on the Mothership are just douches. One in particular rankles me like none other, but I just don't understand why they have to be such dicks when they answer a question.
I want to find a site where I can post my games and not get hugboxxed (as Bizzare calls it). I want brutal, raw, unfiltered Internet coming down with the fury. I'm a big boy. Hell, I went through public school in a small town as the Black Sheep. I think I can handle an anonymous avatar saying mean things about the stuff I make.
I like RMW because the answers are quick, on the rare occasion when I ask for resources they are also fast, and the crowd tends to be a little older than High School. (Sorry RMVXA...)
When I found this site, I was super excited...
Until I found it was focused mainly on MV, and I am not using it much yet. I am still rocking Ace, and probably will be for a while.
But this rant raises a question that I formed a little while back, when I noticed who the owner of this site is.

Did Xyphien start this site after getting the Banhammer on another? Lol. I contemplated doing that after the dustups with a mod on RMW...


I just want to say, you people are awesome! Lets expand the Ace section!

Heres a great song from a great movie (Movie is not for the faint of heart...)

 

[Zebestian]

I am still rocking Ace, and probably will be for a while.
[...]
I just want to say, you people are awesome! Lets expand the Ace section!

Well, good thing that my music can be used in VX and VX Ace as well as MV! XD

Anyway, what I wanted to say is that I think we're doing a good job of complementing the entire RPG Maker community as a whole. We're a fresh community trying to get a hold in the world wide web and among other RM users. We don't want to be the "alternative" for everyone who's disappointed in the other communities or got banned or something like that. We don't want to rival the other communities. What we want is building a community based on shared interests. In my opinion, comparing different communities, albeit them having common ground with RM, doesn't make much sense. It's like comparing different cultures, different societies. There's a lot of differences between all these communities. Different structures, different members, different opinions, different views, etc.
So... of course no community is like another and this community can surely not be compared to RMWeb or RMVXAce all that easily. You can't even say much about MV.co since we've only existed for about three months at this point - we're not even out of the crib yet. And still people compare this forum baby to all grown-up communities. I don't think that works very well.
There's also the fact that some people have been or are part of the other communities and have been that for different amounts of time. Some are active, some only lurk... and I think that especially the more active members tend to overthink things like these and compare communities more subjectively than objectively. If you've been dissed on on RMW then surely you hate it. If you've been praised on Ace.net then surely you like that more. So keep that in mind when comparing the different communities.

tl;dr: It's hard comparing the different communities due to many reasons.

 

[Bizarre Monkey]

On the note of both Xyphien and Sage, far as I know, and I have some very credible sources and reliable informants, they arrived at the scene and beat RMwebs to making an exclusively catered site for RPG Maker MV, neither of them have been banned in any places, though they were close to getting in trouble on webs because of advertising the forum, lol.

Trust me, if they'd had any ties with Webs I wouldn't be here.

On Kaimen's note, I think both VXAce and RMwebs are horrible in their own ways. The former has no balls, and in both the moderators (typically more so than admins by a very noticeable degree) have their heads wayyyy too far up their asses. RMW also houses a lot of members who I once knew as friends, they are the traitors I spoke of elsewhere.

But I also think, that much as the latter may be packed with traitors and the former may as well be the nursery, they need to exist.

They need to house the audiences they've grown and catered towards, the wise and / or indifferent will seek out better, and in that, it's very possible they'll find us.

I also may have absolutely no problem with being particularly disdainful when describing RMwebs and VXace.net due to being banned from both of them. That said I didn't have much love for webs before I got the boot, I liked VXace.net but one toe out of line and you're pretty much on deathrow from that point forwards.

I've been suspended from RMN a bit, but they only ban me because I virtually give them no alternative. I wouldn't say I like RMN in the same way an alcoholic doesn't claim to like alcohol. But I never really get that twerpy vibe there that I do from other places. Probably because twerps are publicly shamed and not banned. RMN is probably the most level-headed place around, sure it has its members that annoy the crap out of you but that same thing can be said of every forum, workplace and chat I encounter these days.

The great thing about RMN is I can feel completely justified in telling them to eat a tub of glue for being stupid and not suffer any real consequences because people there have a spine.

But this here? This is the cherished middleground.