Goodbye all

[VideoWizard]

The time has come for me to leave the site behind. Let's just say I have my reasons as a budding artist. I can't support a site owned by someone that effectively is stealing art. If an artist or musician or anyone leaves, they have the right to take their work with them, off of the site. It is actually illegal to keep it on the site without permission.

That's right, illegal. As in MV.co can actually get shut down if caught. Hopefully I don't get banned for telling the truth, but given the recent history of the site, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.

 

[Iron Croc]

Take care, buddy. I support you (And artists, writers, composers, and programmers) all the way. See you at the spot. :D

 

[Cunechan]

That's sad. Take care of yourself and I hope you'll be alright though I can fully understand you as an artist. I hope they'll fix this ?

 

[Xyphien]

Hello, and also goodbye. As for legality, I can only assume you're referring to a specific member. If that is the case, said member created backgrounds, and resources specifically for the site, and after leaving due to me confronting the user on some things they quit in an extremely unprofessional manner, and then decided to state they are revoking ALL rights to use the content. This is all true, however, legally as a member you have to mark the check mark prior to creating an account agreeing to the terms of service. https://rpgmakermv.co/help/ Proof found here. The terms of service states this:

You are granting us with a non-exclusive, permanent, irrevocable, unlimited license to use, publish, or re-publish your Content in connection with the Service. You retain copyright over the Content.

Full terms of service found here: https://rpgmakermv.co/help/terms This being said, I declined removing the content off the site. So, no. It is not illegal.

 

[Macro]

Keeping working hard on your art, and good luck out there.

 

[Zebestian]

the terms of service.

The terms that basically state, if I understand right, "you're giving up all copyright on your work for our [the forum's] benefit, while retaining full copyright". Did I get that right? I don't know how that works. And if I still have full copyright I am still able to revoke the licensing and the permission, right? I'm a little confused as to how that's supposed to work other than just giving you right and assisting your point in that debate.
Another question: does that also mean that everything I posted, all my music, also fall under that rule and you're allowed to use and distribute all that? If that's the case then I'm out. My music belongs to me and nobody else and nobody is to make profit off of my or anyone else's work without explicit permission and agreement.

 

[Xyphien]

The terms that basically state, if I understand right, "you're giving up all copyright on your work for our [the forum's] benefit, while retaining full copyright". Did I get that right? I don't know how that works. And if I still have full copyright I am still able to revoke the licensing and the permission, right? I'm a little confused as to how that's supposed to work other than just giving you right and assisting your point in that debate.
Another question: does that also mean that everything I posted, all my music, also fall under that rule and you're allowed to use and distribute all that? If that's the case then I'm out. My music belongs to me and nobody else and nobody is to make profit off of my or anyone else's work without explicit permission and agreement.

The TOS has been the same since Day 1.
I have not changed, updated, or done anything with them.
I'm not planning on using anyone's work without them telling me they can.
Said member in my first post specifically made content for the site, and I won't be removing it, and using the TOS to state that it is why I won't be as she tried bringing up the legality of it.

 

[Cunechan]

The terms that basically state, if I understand right, "you're giving up all copyright on your work for our [the forum's] benefit, while retaining full copyright". Did I get that right? I don't know how that works. And if I still have full copyright I am still able to revoke the licensing and the permission, right? I'm a little confused as to how that's supposed to work other than just giving you right and assisting your point in that debate.

I'm confused at the original definition here too. Would someone mind to explain please ?

 

[Zebestian]

The TOS has been the same since Day 1.
I have not changed, updated, or done anything with them.
I'm not planning on using anyone's work without them telling me they can.
Said member in my first post specifically made content for the site, and I won't be removing it, and using the TOS to state that it is why I won't be as she tried bringing up the legality of it.

So nice to see you care so much that I get a copy-paste answer which does not answer my questions in the slightest. And I never claimed that you changed them.

 

[Xyphien]

I'm confused at the original definition here too. Would someone mind to explain please ?

The terms state that by uploading content we have permissions to redistribute your content, yes. However, I have not, and will not use content unless granted permission. Amy gave me permission to use the work she uploaded to the site to be used on the background. As well as provided content on the resource package. Then, when confronted with certain things, quit from the mod team, and demanded that I removed all content she once gave permission too. After I declined she brought up that legally I can't, and I provided proof that I can.

Once again, though the TOS states I can, I will not be using people's content unless granted by the user prior. These include a PM stating they wish for me to use their content for x reason, or by participating in a contest/event stating that we will use it for x reason. Such as the background contest that's going on.

The reason I stated that the terms have been the same since day 1 of the forum is that since the creation of the site the TOS has been the same, and until now nothing has been done to involve them.

 

[Zebestian]

Then, when confronted with certain things, quit from the mod team, and demanded that I removed all content she once gave permission too. After I declined she brought up that legally I can't, and I provided proof that I can.

So you're saying that once someone gave permission they then give up their copyright? Sorry, that's not how it works. If you say that people still hold full copyright then permissions can be taken back at any time and you'll have to oblige.

 

[MinisterJay]

The time has come for me to leave the site behind. Let's just say I have my reasons as a budding artist. I can't support a site owned by someone that effectively is stealing art. If an artist or musician or anyone leaves, they have the right to take their work with them, off of the site. It is actually illegal to keep it on the site without permission.

That's right, illegal. As in MV.co can actually get shut down if caught. Hopefully I don't get banned for telling the truth, but given the recent history of the site, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.

Hello VideoWized. I am sorry to see you go, even though I did not see you around very much. In response to your accusations of theft occurring. None has. Yes, I get teased for being the compliance nut, on this forum, but this compliance nut was smart enough to actually press the link for "I agree to the terms and rules " before checking the box.. All it says is that the forum can use the resources that I have uploaded, and will continue to upload, can be used by the forum. I retain the ownership. There is nothing about the forum owning nor selling other's resources. This occurs often in business. It happens very often in contests, and competitions. I tutor law students and MBA students, so I am very positive, with my knowledge and research, that nothing illegal is occurring or has occurred. How can you get banned? You quit!

 

[sage]

Thank you @MinisterJay for saving me the explanation.

 

[HotfireLegend]

Alright guys, calm down. I've had a look over the entire TOU plus some laws.

Essentially, it says you are granting a licence to the site to reproduce content (forum posts, art, everything you write, basically) which is the norm -this is required for the general display of content to other people too. The tou states that you retain copyright and can thus post it elsewhere etc - MV.CO cannot claim it is theirs. Copyright law states that it is an offense to violate someone's copyrights unless you (the copyright holder) have provided consent. By signing up to the TOU though, you have provided this consent. You are however, able to morally claim for the right to be identified as the author and to object to any defamatory use.

However, these are Xenforo's generic TOU, not Xy's. He isn't trying to steal your works, lol.